Are you overwhelmed by diet culture and confused about the difference between organic, free range, sustainable, natural? Looking for way to reboot your passion for connecting yourself into your food system and revamping how you look at food or your daily approach to eating? Tune in to hear Ali and Becki interview Joel Salatin and Dr. Sina McCollough, two thought leaders and genuinely awesome people! 


Joel has inspired millions with his work on Polyface Farm in Swoope, Virginia, which was featured in the New York Times bestseller Omnivore’s Dilemma and award-winning documentary Food Inc.  Joel is a world leader in regenerative agriculture with a passionate understanding of the harmonious relationship between nature and the farmer. Dr. Sina has a radical health healing journey from a diet comprised of processed foods shifting to an individualized food-as-medicine approach serving to rebound from chronic illness and severe nutritional deficiencies. 


In this episode, we discuss action items or practical bites to “get your hands dirty” and directly connect with your food system as well as defining a continuum from processed foods to whole foods and from a lackluster life to a vibrant one! We also go into more broad high level conversations on sovereignty and health freedom touching on farm subsidies, medical autonomy, disease label and diagnostics, and defining what elements are necessary for optimal wellness. 


Also in this episode:

  • Joel and Sina’s Story
  • What does Beyond Labels mean to the authors?
  • Unpacking the continuum of health diagram 
    • Maximal Health
    • Maximal Happiness
    • Maximal Freedom
    • Maximal Trust
    • Maximal Personal Responsibility
    • As opposed to: sadness, dependence, blind faith, and victimhood
  • What food labels really mean?
  • Deep dive conversation on Freedom
  • How to harness your power and vote with your dollar
  • Being a conscious Omnivore
  • Backyard growing and homesteading


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About our guests: 

Dr. Sina McCullough is the author of Beyond Labels and Hands Off My Food. She holds a Ph.D. in Nutritional Science and a B.S. in Neurobiology, Physiology, and Behavior, both from the University of California at Davis. She was the Director of R&D for a supplement company and taught Biochemistry and Bioenergetics at UC Davis. Despite her knowledge, she developed an autoimmune disease, which prompted her to launch an investigation into our food supply. What she learned saved her life; she reversed the disease without the use of medication. Now, Dr. McCullough is dedicated to helping others avoid the health challenges she has faced.


Joel Salatin and his family operate Polyface Farm in Virginia’s Shenandoah Valley. Beginning in 1961 the family developed soil building and water-enhancing protocols to grow pastured livestock: beef, pork, chicken, turkey, ducks, and sheep. The farm direct markets to individual families, restaurants, and institutional dining services. With a long track record of innovation and excellence, Polyface Farm holds educational seminars, farm tours, day camps and events to encourage duplication and understanding. Joel is the author of 13 books, including Beyond Labels, Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal, and The Sheer Ecstasy of Being a Lunatic Farmer and he is the editor of the world’s premier pastured livestock publication, The Stockman Grass Farmer.

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